Gerry Hassan and Michael Keating (Professor of
politics Aberdeen) - 'THE EVOLUTION OF DEVOLUTION'
They discussed debates on how to build bridges, with many questions over frictionless borders and if this is possible to preserve communities. They felt that there was too much noise and not enough silence or consideration. Hassan criticised the SNP timidity in government, and claimed that there are no leading thinkers who identify with social democracy and its values are not nurtured. I wasn't sure I understood this comment because I read many informed and educated journalists in both the Herald and National newspapers who believe in social democracy.
They discussed debates on how to build bridges, with many questions over frictionless borders and if this is possible to preserve communities. They felt that there was too much noise and not enough silence or consideration. Hassan criticised the SNP timidity in government, and claimed that there are no leading thinkers who identify with social democracy and its values are not nurtured. I wasn't sure I understood this comment because I read many informed and educated journalists in both the Herald and National newspapers who believe in social democracy.
They asked, how can we
nurture non-party spaces? A future Scotland cannot be about certainty, or the
conditional politics of independence or unionism. How do we move on from the
entrenched divides, and that we require more 'open mindedness'. The voices
of middle Scotland have many 'close-minded warriors' who don't want to have a debate between
independence or union. There are important questions over what kind of self
government is required for our economic and social project? How to find a
shared destination and how do we get there?
They said
there was an absence of a think tank not made up of political parties, for a
new national project. They spoke of the evolution of Scottish devolution and
that London’s shadow over the UK (with 40% of the UKs GDP) was similar only to
Moscow’s over Russia. Other issues raised included - taxes for a fairer Scotland.;
welfare powers; childcare are ways of tackling poverty; and social
inclusion.
The Westminster
parliament was an empty vessel and they spoke of the hope for more self-government
within an EU framework. Bulgaria has a huge amount of power and socially more
equal than Scotland. Is there a contradiction between social growth and
equality? Smaller countries are often more socially equal.
The constitutional questions have several levels – the nature of
the state and federalism and devolution as positive forces.
The Smith
commission was a political compromise. Political society asks the right
questions – but the parties don’t listen - they only fight and not hearing the bigger
issues. There has not been enough post mortem since Indy Ref, too much silence.
Then there
was the 'British nationalism' and the talk of borderlands, such as by Rory Stewart. –
perhaps we only disagree on the framework? Borders are both entrances and
exit and there is the innovation of open borders and frictionless borders. They
wondered about the peace process in Northern Ireland and the border there.
National is both good and bad. However Brexit
has thrown all of this out of the water.
The hope to address what kind of society are we going to look like? There was far too much short termism and they felt that politics was too emotional. Politicians not offering more self government and in fact it is far from certain what they are offering? How is independence formulated are and not what people want – the question are more about the kind of self government. They felt that many have not understood what Independence means or the degree of sovereignty.
Then there
is the decline in unionist Scotland – society and power changing with catalysts
for further change. Political parties in pockets of money. The economy is
unbalanced and the economic model is not working and the banks have not been
reformed. The redistribution of money is
only slightly more under Labour, Corbyn offers managed capitalism with fixed exchange
rate.
They argued
for opening up politics and not having professional politicians and for Scotland
cultural change and a second revolution. Civic Scotland is engaged in this debate. There was no discussion over
the lack of any Scottish media. Is Scotland going to stay in Europe? The SNP
have to change with the times and with the rate of change they suggested. What is the
differences between Devo Max and independence anyway – the difference is miniscule.